June 2004


Carl and Rory geek out with Richard Cambpell about everything but programming! Topics include water-cooled PCs, wireless gear, and flying cars. Yeah, it’s not about .NET, but for crying out loud, live a little!

This week we had a very informative discussion about messaging with Benjamin Mitchell and John Bristowe. Benjamin and John cut through the WS-AlphabetSoup set of specifications, avoid frequent references to SOA and cover what the benefits of web services are, why you might want to use WSE (security, policy, addressing and support for TCP), how to use web services in your applications today and where Microsoft is heading with web services and Indigo in future. Michele Leroux Bustamante joined us unexpectedly in the second half, and she even told a great joke!

John and Barry talk with us about Test-Driven Development, Unit Testing, and other aspects of Extreme Programming that are being used today. We had given lip service to unit testing in past shows, but John and Barry were able to explain the benefits as well as the how-to of test-driven development

Rocky Lhotka talks about his new book, the CSLA framework, and makes the case for business objects in this world of DataSets and XML. He also talked a bit about WhiteHorse, Microsoft’s new designers for SOA and classes shipping in the Whidbey timeframe. This was a great show, and we’re always glad to talk to Rocky about all things .NET.